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[personal profile] zilya
I think the way I'd like to observe this 10-year mark is to encourage us all to move past the "safety before freedom" scaredy-cat cultural bias we've fallen into, and back to enjoying our freedoms (what this country was supposed to be about anyway). It's been long enough, get over it already.

I've noticed that something has crept into the language: when people travel, the usual supportive thing to say is "Have a safe trip!" ugh. The reason we travel is not to be safe, it's to have fun or accomplish something!

Please think about your language and at least don't say that to ME anymore. I'll accept "drive carefully", cause that's talking about a real issue (phil would say so based on the way I drive). But I'd much rather hear "Have a FUN trip", "Have a great time", or "Take lots of pictures" :)

Date: 2011-09-10 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bikergeek.livejournal.com
I'd like to observe it by flying somewhere, but I have no immediate need of air transportation.

And ... yeah. I'd like to see the paranoia go away, too.

Date: 2011-09-10 02:40 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] perspicuity.livejournal.com
mmm, i've said safe trip for decades - 9/11 never entered into it. esp applicable when safety is mostly in YOUR hands. flying? you give that up a lot.

i'll celebrate 9/11 by going to the range, and shooting some zombie and prawn targets or something.

on the actual day after, we had a surfboard vigil - very eery to have no planes in the air at all. wow. has it been that long? i need to get back on the water.

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Date: 2011-09-10 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maighread.livejournal.com
Hum, I've also said the "have a safe trip" thing for years. But I guess what I really mean is "have safe transportation so you can have fun once you get to each place that you're going". =)



Date: 2011-09-10 03:19 am (UTC)
coraline: (Default)
From: [personal profile] coraline
yeah, this -- i haven't observed any correlation with 9/11, it's a longstanding phrase...

Date: 2011-09-10 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimberlogic.livejournal.com
Me too - I've long said "safe trip/safe travels" without any correlation to 9/11. However, I agree completely with you about how we should approach travel and life in general every day.
And I'm finding the "10 years later" media barrage really unpleasant.

I'm flying tomorrow, actually.

*hugs*

Date: 2011-09-10 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcb.livejournal.com
Well said!

Date: 2011-09-10 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deguspice.livejournal.com
Sometimes I'll say "Have a quiet and uneventful flight".

("quiet" = no screaming babies)

Date: 2011-09-10 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klingonlandlady.livejournal.com
Yay for no screaming babies! We had them on both flights this year, always a good way to make me feel grateful and appreciative for my life choices and those of my adorable spouse. (see: "NFW Moment")

Date: 2011-09-10 10:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blk
Earplugs are my friends on flights, partially for this reason. :)

Date: 2011-09-10 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnad.livejournal.com
I too am guilty of saying have a safe trip, or safe travels. but I have said that for years without any thought to the events of 9/11/01. A lot of times my intent is "don't get mugged" or "drive carefully".
I apologize if I have said have a safe trip and offended you.

Date: 2011-09-10 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klingonlandlady.livejournal.com
Oh please, friends cannot offend me that easily :) You'd have to take up adding ", you nitwit" at the end of the sentence or something- and of course "drive carefully" is always good advice. It just seemed more prevalent lately, and emblematic of a cultural shift overall that I found unfortunate.

Have a nice day!

Date: 2011-09-10 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com
"Drive fast! Take risks!"

Date: 2011-09-10 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awfief.livejournal.com
I have a similar experience -- my mother has always said 'have a safe trip' or 'fly safely', even before 9/11. I've pointed out that I have very little control over flying safely.

Perhaps you're just noticing it more these days?

Date: 2011-09-11 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canongrrl.livejournal.com
yes yes yes. And it's not just travel that's getting jerked around ... 9/11 was a power grab for every agency in the government and all it cost us, the citizens of the us, was our rights ...

Date: 2011-09-11 02:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ceo
When he and I were housemates, [livejournal.com profile] spaceshotscot was fond of saying "Drive reckessly!"

Date: 2011-09-12 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clara-girl.livejournal.com
someone recently told me to "drive fast and take risks!"

Date: 2011-09-12 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clara-girl.livejournal.com
hm. i've certainly said "travel safely," which is an extension of "drive safely."

when it comes to giving well wishes on the trip itself, i prefer, "bring back good stories." :)

I've gone back to an old favorite

Date: 2011-09-12 02:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drwex
May the road rise to meet you!

(Though I do say "travel safe" to folk. I always have.)

Date: 2011-09-12 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achinhibitor.livejournal.com
It's been long enough, get over it already.

Amen! And on the greater scale of things, 9/11 wasn't that awful. 3 million people in the US die of natural causes every year. More to the point, 30,000 die on the roads every year and nobody thinks to mention it, even though it's clear that we could reduce that number a lot if we cared.

"Have a safe trip!"

Historically and currently, travel is dangerous. Though of course, the dangerous part about flying is getting to and from the airports. But I think the root of this saying is a prophetic blessing, the ancient belief that expressing a desire for something will somehow cause it to come about.
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